Jorgen Aadneram Jorgenson Oral History Interview, 1982  PDF

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Jorgenson, Jorgen Aadneram
Title
Dates
1982 (inclusive)
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3 file folders,
2 photographs
1 sound cassette
Collection Number
t187
Summary
An oral history interview with Jorgen Aadneram Jorgenson, a Norwegian immigrant.
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Pacific Lutheran University, Archives and Special Collections
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Jorgen Jorgenson was born Jorgen Aadneram on February 17, 1909 in Kvaeven, Sirdalen, Norway, the oldest child of Tarjei Aadneram and Ingeborg Kveven; Jorgen had six sisters. His father was a farmer, and his mother died when he was 11 years old. He left from Stavanger, Norway on March 5, 1929 and landed in Halifax, Canada, sixteen days later. He had an uncle living in Tacoma, WA who arranged Jorgen's papers, and he traveled with a friend, Anton Austad. They took the train to Vancouver B.C., entered the U.S. on March 28, and went directly to Bellingham, WA. Jorgen started working for Bodell & Donovan, a logging camp about thirty miles out of Bellingham, on April 18, 1929 and stayed there until all the logging camps in Washington State were shut down on July 4, 1930. He worked on a farm in Mt. Vernon, WA in 1932 and then decided to go to Nome, Alaska, where he got a job at Plaster Gold Mine, located at Bluff (?), which was sixty miles west of Nome. He did not return to Plaster in 1933 and started working for Bodell & Donovan in Bellingham in the logging camps again off and on until 1941. He also fished in Alaska from 1934-37; again in King Cove, near the Bering Sea, from 1939-41; and started working in Cold Bay, AK in 1941 before WWII broke out. He worked for Morrison & Knudsen (?) in Alaska for two years during the war, doing carpentry work.

He met his wife, Florence, when he came down from Alaska in 1943, and they married fourteen days after they met. Florence was born in Bellingham, but her mother was Norwegian. Jorgen went back to Alaska and worked for six months. He was then drafted, but due to an eye injury he received in 1933, the Army did not take him, and he returned to Bellingham, where he worked in a shipyard for a while. He and Florence had one son, Terry, born on November 3, 1944 (?) in Bellingham. They bought a farm in Clipper, WA and lived there until 1946, at which time they sold the farm and Jorgen built a house in Bellingham. Jorgen did carpentry work, worked for a company in Seattle for seven years before he retired, and now manages thirty apartment units. He became a citizen in 1937, and he and his wife belong to St. John's Lutheran Church in Bellingham. He has visited Norway six times, the first time in 1947.

Lineage

Full Name: Jorgen Jorgenson. Baptized Name: Jorgen Aadneram. Father: Tarjei Aadneram. Mother: Ingeborg Kveven. Paternal Grandfather: Jorgen Aadneram. Paternal Grandmother: Guri Fedjeland. Maternal Grandfather: Torjus Kveven. Maternal Grandmother: Karen Sinnes. Brothers and Sisters: Klara Aadneram, Guri Aadneram, Sigrid Aadneram, Tonny (?)Aadneram, Tobine Aadneram, Olga Aadneram. Spouse: Florence Jorgenson. Children: Terry Jorgenson.

Content DescriptionReturn to Top

The interview was conducted with Jorgen Jorgenson on September 30, 1982 in Bellingham, Washington. This interview contains information on family history, trips to Norway, childhood home, father's visit from Norway, Norway after WWII, emigration, reasons for emigrating, voyage to America, work in the U.S., the Depression, work in Alaska, fishing in Alaska, learning English, meeting spouse, marriage and family, work during WWII, church, Christmas traditions in Norway, family in Norway, and trapping in Norway. The interview also provides two black and white photographs of Jorgen Jorgenson taken in 1982. The interview was conducted in English.

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The partial interview transcription highlights important aspects of the interview. Numbers may be used as guides to important subjects. Two numbers separated by a slash indicate that the first number is for cassette and the second for CD.

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Cassette
187, side 1 018:
Jorgen Jorgenson. Changed his name from Aadneram to Jorgenson when he came to America. Born in Sirdalen, Norway on February 17, 1909.
187, side 1 055: PARENTS
Tarjei Aadneram and Ingeborg Kveven. Father was a farmer. Mother was a housewife. Jorgen's parents bought his mother's home at Kveven in Sirdalen when he was four years old. Jorgen lived here until he left for America.
187, side 1 102: BROTHERS AND SISTERS
Jorgen was the oldest child in the family. He had six sisters.
187, side 1 110: GRANDPARENTS
Paternal grandparents had a small farm at the top of Sirdal, which is about five Norwegian miles long (50 kilometers). Maternal grandparents had a small farm about four Norwegian miles from the bottom of the valley. When Jorgen's father was born, there were no roads. One had to travel by foot or boat. Had to carry groceries over the mountain in the winter. It was a tough life. People hadn't been anywhere else so they liked where they were. His grandfather raised beef and butter. Caught ptarmigans up in the mountains. Jorgen remembers hunting ptarmigan in the winter of 1929. They had a cabin up in the mountains where they stayed for six days. His uncle had 80 ptarmigans, Jorgen had 50, and his cousin had 30. They sold their catch, but didn't get much for them.
187, side 1 219: SISTERS (See I-102)
When Jorgen left Norway at age 20, his youngest sister was 11. His mother died when he was 11 and the youngest was only 1. Jorgen's father said he wouldn't remarry. He was going to take care of his children. He did and his children lived with him. He always had his kids around him.
187, side 1 248: TRIPS BACK TO NORWAY
Jorgen was the only one far away from home, but he has visited Norway six times. His first trip was in 1947, after WWII. He hadn't heard from his family since before the war broke out in 1939. He got a letter from them through the Red Cross and found out that everyone was alive. They found out that he was married and had a boy.
187, side 1 280: PARENTS
(See also I-055) Father was a farmer. Raised beef, grain, and potatoes.
187, side 1 287: SISTERS
(See also I-102, I-219) Names were Klara, Guri, Sigrid, Tonny, Tobine, and Olga.
187, side 1 323: CHILDHOOD HOME
Happy, although they missed their mother. They had a very good father. They have always been a close family. He still corresponds with his family.
187, side 1 336: VISITS FROM NORWAY
In 1956, Jorgen sent his father a ticket to come to the U.S. His father didn't want to fly so he refused the ticket. Jorgen's aunt flew to Norway for a visit. After this Jorgen's father decided he would fly to America. He came in November 1956. He stayed until March 1957. He enjoyed the trip. He had many people to visit. He still liked Norway better. Jorgen's oldest and youngest sisters came to visit as well. They stayed for 21 days. This was after Olga's husband died in 1976. They were impressed with all the fruit in eastern Washington. They met many people in Tacoma who they knew from Norway.
187, side 1 415: TRIPS BACK TO NORWAY
(See also I-248) First trip was in 1947. Traveled on a Swedish ship, "Gripsholm." There weren't many Norwegian liners running that soon after the war. This Swedish ship hadn't been converted from a troop ship to a passenger ship yet so the men and women were separated. The trip was a little rough. Jorgen's wife was in bed and he had their three and a half year old son, Terry. He tells about how the boat really leaned to one side because of the tidal wave. Some people were injured. When they got to Gothenburg (Göteborg), Sweden, an icebreaker had to clear a path for the boat so it could get to the dock. They wanted to spend the night in Gothenburg but there were no vacancies in the hotels there. The captain of the ship said they could spend the night on the ship but Jorgen had already arranged for them to take the next train to Norway, which left at 2:30am. Had a hard time finding a hotel in Norway too. They stayed at the Seaman's Mission Hotel.
187, side 1 543: NORWAY AFTER WWII
Food was rationed. Only children could have milk. Not much to buy in the stores. The situation was better by then time they left in September, 1947. Sugar, coffee, flour, etc. were rationed. They got food from the U.S. Jorgen's family in Sirdal didn't suffer much. They had their farm and meat. It was more difficult for the people in the cities. Jorgen had an aunt and uncle in Moss, just outside of Oslo. Everything was rationed. They had a lock on the bread drawer. They had five children. When they ate, they'd divided a couple of pieces of bread among the children. They were not in good health. Jorgen only lost one relative in WWII. Sirdal wasn't affected much by the war. Jorgen's father spent a day in jail for collection money for the pastor. The Germans didn't allow for this.
187, side 1 599: EMIGRATION FROM NORWAY
Left Sirdal on March 5, 1929. Could have taken the train to Stavanger but chose to save money and walk. He walked over the mountain to Hunnedalen. Father's youngest brother had a farm there. Jorgen and his uncle both had skis so they made good time to the next town, Øvstebo (?). They had something to eat there. His father knew some people there. They spent the night with his father's brother. The roads started to get bare so they left their skis there. The next day they walked to Randaberg (?), which is 10 kilometers from Stavanger. It took two days to get from Sirdal to Stavanger. His father and neighbor came with. They took turns carrying his suitcase. It wasn't very heavy. He didn't bring many clothes with him.
187, side 1 663: REASONS FOR COMING TO THE U.S.
Things were tough in Norway and they were a big family. Jorgen's father said he was thinking about going to Canada. He figured his children were big enough to take care of themselves. Jorgen told his father to stay in Norway. He wanted to go to the U.S. He had an uncle living in Tacoma, Washington. Jorgen's uncle arranged the papers for immigration into the U.S. This was much faster than waiting for the quota, which took a long time. Jorgen planned to work for five years in the U.S. and then come back and take over the family farm. Jorgen decided not to go back to Norway.
187, side 1 700: TRIP TO AMERICA
Heard in 1928 that things in the U.S. were supposed to be really good. Left Norway in March 9, 1929. Took a smaller boat across the North Sea. Spent three days in London. Took a ship from Southampton, England to Halifax, Canada. Left Southampton on the fourth day. Got to Halifax on March 21. Had a rough crossing.
187, side 1 720: TRAIN TRIP
Took the train from Halifax to Vancouver, B.C. Jorgen was traveling with a friend, Anton Austad who had three brothers in Bellingham, Washington. Jorgen stayed at the Commercial Hotel there. Met friends and relatives.
187, side 1 738: TRAVELING
Was never alone while traveling. Anton got sick while crossing the Atlantic. Jorgen had to bring food to him. Anton had a sad ending. Died in an automobile accident in 1931. He and Jorgen had gone to Seattle, looking for fishing jobs in Alaska. Anton dropped Jorgen in Saxon, WA (by Sedro Woolley) and was killed instantly in an automobile accident between Saxon and Bellingham. Jorgen actually came into the U.S. on March 28, 1929. Anton's brothers met them in Vancouver B.C. They went directly to Bellingham from there.
187, side 1 788: WORK IN THE U.S.
Jorgen had some friends working for Bodell and Donovan about 30 miles out of Bellingham. 250 men were worked in the camp. Jorgen started working for them on April 18, 1929. Worked on the foundation of a 22-car garage. They worked with picks, shovels, and wheelbarrows. Jorgen worked hard. Was stiff and tired when he came home in the evening. The two men he worked with said he worked too hard, but they were fired a short time later. Jorgen worked there until July 4, 1930, when the camp was shut down. All logging camps in Washington State shut down at that time.
187, side 1 825: THE DEPRESSION
Hard times came in the next few years. Jorgen managed. He always worked but had to take jobs that didn't pay much at times.
187, side 1 833: WORK DURING THE DEPRESSION
Worked on a farm in Mt. Vernon for a dollar a day in 1932. When he first worked in a logging camp in 1929, he made $4.50 a day. When the camps started up again in 1931 their wages were cut to $1.98 a day. It came to less than a dollar a day after they paid room and board. In 1932, he decided to go to Nome, Alaska. He got a job, which would last for 15 days and could be extended for the whole summer if they liked his work. He earned $5.00 a day plus room and board. They worked 10 hours days. He worked in the Plaster Gold Mine (?) located at Bluff (?), which is 60 miles west of Nome. Jorgen was young and worked hard so the boss put him on the night shift and had him do the most dangerous job. They had to work under a slack skyline, which broke three times during the summer, taking the head off his partner one time. Jorgen decided that working in the woods was safer so he didn't return to the mine in 1938.
187, side 1 895: LOGGING AND FISHING
Jorgen started working for Bodell and Donovan in Bellingham again. They had a large logging company. They had mills at Lake Whatcom and in Bellingham. He worked for the logging camp off and on until 1941. He fished in Alaska in 1939-1941 by percentage. Fished in King Cove, near the Bering Sea in 1939-1941. Started working in Cold Day, Alaska in 1941 before the war broke out. Morrison and Knudsen (?) had some big contracts in Alaska. Cold Bay, which wasn't far from King Cove was one of their contracts. When fishing season was over in the fall, they tired to hire people in the canneries to set up their camp. They were going to build a big railway. Only three of them stayed to work on their camp. Jorgen was going to be a carpenter, but had to wait a month to get his carpenter tools. In the meantime, he worked in the cook house.When the war started, he asked for a transfer to Cordova. The company flew him to Anchorage, paid his expenses, and gave him a vacation. They flew in a 4-5 man plane. The weather was so bad on their first attempt at leaving Cold Bay that they had to turn back. They tried again on the next day. They were between Cold Bay and Naknek when it became too foggy to navigate so they landed on the sandy beach. It was clear enough to fly after a couple of hours. Flew to Naknek (?) and put gas in the plane. They headed towards Anchorage but couldn't make it through the pass. They turned around and landed on Iliamna Lake. They cut holes in the ice and tied the plane down. Walked three miles to a roadhouse. Listened to the weather report everyday. Had to stay there for three days. When preparing to leave, they had to build a fire underneath the plane to warm up the oil. It was so foggy near the pass that they couldn't see anything. The pilot circled around until they reached 12,000 feet. The highest mountain in the area was 9,000 feet. By the compass, they got over Cook Inlet. They dove down under the fog and soon the sun was shining. They had to wait until the weather was better to fly from Anchorage to Cordova. It took twelve days to get from Cold Bay to Cordova. Jorgen worked for Morrison and Knudsen (?) for two years during the war. They had sixteen of their own planes plus some charter planes because they had so many men working for them and their headquarters were in Anchorage. Jorgen was doing carpentry work for them. Got to see a lot of Alaska through this company.
187, side 1 1024: LEARNING ENGLISH
He worked with some Norwegians and Swedes in logging camps, but he picked up English pretty fast. They'd send him down to the warehouse and he'd come back with the wrong thing.
187, side 1 1039: MEETING SPOUSE
After he came down from Alaska in 1943. His second cousin in Bellingham invited him to dinner at his house in Bellingham. Jorgen had been to Seattle that day and hadn't shaved. When he got to Bellingham his cousin's wife said she invited a nice girl to have dinner with them an he'd better shave. Jorgen and Florence got married 14 days later. They have one son, Terry Jorgenson. He was born on November 3, 1943. They were living in Bellingham at that time. They got married so soon because Jorgen thought he was going to be drafted and that she wouldn't wait for him.
187, side 2 051: WORK DURING WWII
Jorgen wasn't drafted and was allowed to go back to Alaska and continue working for Morrison and Knudsen (?). He stayed for six months after he got his deferment. Then he got his induction papers for the army. He was to have his examination in Anchorage. Jorgen wanted to go home and see his wife so he went back to Bellingham. He signed in for his induction in October. He chose to join the army. He was number 324 on the draft when the war broke out but because of an eye injury received in 1933 he wasn't drafted in 1941. The army would have had to operate on his eye. By 1944, the hospitals were full of men coming back from overseas so the army didn't take him this time either.
187, side 2 142:
Jorgen didn't go back to Morrison and Knudsen (?). Worked in a shipyard in Bellingham for a while. Bought a farm in Clipper, Washington. Lived on the farm until 1946. His wife had asthma and couldn't stand the dust. They sold the farm and Jorgen built the house in Bellingham, which they live in now. Jorgen did carpentry work, sometimes for himself and sometimes for others. Worked for a company in Seattle for seven years before he retired. They were working on the university. He always managed to find work.
187, side 2 198: CHURCH
Jorgen and his wife belong to St. John's Lutheran Church in Bellingham.
187, side 2 213: NORWEGIAN ORGANIZATIONS
They don't belong to any but they like to go to lutefisk dinners and the 17th of May celebration.
187, side 2 224:
Jorgen's son speaks Norwegian. They took him with them to Norway in 1947. They left Terry with Jorgen's father and sister when they went to visit his wife's parents. When they came back three weeks later, he was speaking Norwegian. He was three and a half then. He had forgotten most of it when Jorgen's father came to visit in 1956, but re-learned it when he studied Norwegian at the University of Washington. He got along pretty well when he and his wife went to Norway in 1968. Terry, his wife, his two children, and Jorgen and his wife went to Norway in 1979.
187, side 2 281:
Jorgen's wife was born in Bellingham, Washington but her mother was born in Norway so she speaks Norwegian. Her father was born in North Dakota and lived with many Norwegians and Swedes so he could speak Norwegian pretty well.
187, side 2 295: CHRISTMAS
As a child in Norway, he didn't get many presents but they always had a very nice Christmas. His father could cook. He'd get up in the morning and bake cookies, until Jorgen's sister was old enough to do it. They always had a Christmas tree. His father would always sit down and have a devotion before they ate Christmas Eve dinner. It took over an hour to read it. They would sit around the table and listen to their father read the Christmas story. Then they'd open presents and dance around the Christmas tree. At about 11pm they'd have Christmas pudding, which is made out of rice. Jorgen's father would go to bed then and the children could stay up as late as they wanted to since it was Christmas. Jorgen has only good memories about his childhood. He had a wonderful father.
187, side 2 353: FAMILY IN NORWAY
Only one of Jorgen's six sisters has passed away. She found out she had cancer of the pancreas in February 1979 and she died on April 20, 1979 exactly 59 years after their mother died, April 20, 1920. She had everything planned for Jorgen's trip to Norway in 1979.
187, side 2 382: TRAPPING IN NORWAY
Jorgen's grandfather didn't like them to shoot ptarmigan so they set snares instead. They'd put the snares under the snow and put food instead of the snares. The birds would walk into the snares.
187, side 2 406:
Jorgen describes the large photo on his wall of Sirdalen valley. A mountain valley with a river running through it. Family home, Skjeia is in the lower right of the picture.
187, side 2 437:
Jorgen and his family are close. His son has always been really good. They think a lot of each other. Jorgen has been to Norway six times, his wife four times, Terry three times, and Terry's wife two times.
187, side 2 452:
Terry's children have been to Norway once. Jorgen hopes they will got again. Michael was only three years old and Melissa was about 7 years old when they were in Norway.
187, side 2 469:
Terry's children have been to Norway once. Jorgen hopes they will got again. Michael was only three years old and Melissa was about 7 years old when they were in Norway.
187, side 2 INTERVIEWER'S WRITTEN COMMENTS::
Jorgen showed Cindy a tool used for making wooden shoes. He wore wooden shoes in the winter as a child, and went barefoot in the summer. He had to watch out for snakes.He got his U.S. citizenship in 1937. He bought a U.S. history and constitution textbook and studied it. He passed the exam easily. He has expressed a love for this country and wanted to make a home and work here.

Names and SubjectsReturn to Top

  • Subject Terms :
  • Christmas--Norway
  • Depressions--1929
  • Emigration and immigration
  • Family--Norway
  • Norway--History--German occupation, 1940-1945
  • Norway--Social conditions--1945-
  • Norwegian-Americans--Northwest, Pacific--Interviews
  • Norwegian-Americans--Social life and customs
  • Ocean travel
  • Railroad travel
  • World War, 1939-1945
  • Personal Names :
  • Jorgenson, Jorgen --Interviews (creator)
  • Fedjeland, Guri
  • Aadneram, Jorgen
  • Aadneram, Tarjei
  • Austad, Anton
  • Jorgenson, Florence
  • Jorgenson, Terry
  • Kveven, Ingeborg
  • Kveven, Torjus
  • Sinnes, Karen
  • Corporate Names :
  • St. John's Lutheran Church (Bellingham, Wash.)
  • Family Names :
  • Aadneram family
  • Fedjeland family
  • Jorgenson family
  • Kveven family
  • Sinnes family
  • Geographical Names :
  • Aadneram (Norway)
  • Bellingham (Wash.)
  • Cordova (Alaska)
  • Fedjeland (Norway
  • Mount Vernon (Wash.)
  • Nome (Alaska)
  • Sinnes (Norway)
  • Sirdal (Norway)
  • Skjeie (Norway)
  • Valevatn (Norway)
  • Form or Genre Terms :
  • Oral histories
  • Occupations :
  • Carpenters
  • Farmers
  • Loggers
  • Miners
  • Titles within the Collection :
  • New Land New Lives: Scandinavian Immigrants to the Pacific Northwest